fbpx
MENU
GENERAL LAW

Is it legal to record a conversation? The dos & don’ts

Some questions we are frequently asked are: Is it legal to record a conversation? Also, can you use such recordings as evidence in a dispute?

Record Conversation

One question we are frequently asked as by clients is whether or not it is legal to record a conversation. Often such questions come from clients who wish to use such recordings as evidence in a dispute. Often they come from clients who have become aware that someone else has recorded a conversation which they were involved in without their knowledge or consent. As a result of the increasing ease of recording conversations with colleagues using a smartphone, this issue is becoming increasingly common in workplace settings, whether between colleagues who do not get along or in the context of disputes between employees and employers.

The Default Position

The default position in Queensland from which we must begin when discussing the recording of conversations is set out in section 43 of the Invasion of Privacy Act 1971 (Qld), which provides as follows:

‘A person is guilty of an offence against this Act if the person uses a listening device to overhear, record, monitor or listen to a private conversation…’

Private Conversation

The default position as described above only provides us with a part of the picture. In order to understand it properly we must have regard to the definition of ‘private conversation’ provided under the Act.

The Act defines ‘private conversation’ to include any words spoken by one person to another which fall into both of the following categories:

  • The words must be spoken in circumstances that indicate that the persons desired the words to be heard only by themselves; and
  • The words must not be spoken in circumstances in which the persons ought reasonably to expect that the words may be overheard, recorded, monitored or listened to by another person

The ‘Party to the Conversation’ Exception

There is one primary exception to the above position, namely that in order for an offence to be committed, the person recording the private conversation must be someone other than one of the parties to the private conversation.

This means that a person is free to record a private conversation to which they are a party. It is only where a non-party makes the recording that an offence is committed.

Communication or Publication

There is an important caveat with respect to the exception relating to recordings made by parties to the private conversation. This caveat relates to the manner in which the recording is used. The party will not commit an offence provided that the recording is kept for their own personal use or reference. This does not extend to the communication or publication of the conversation.

Therefore, regardless of whether the person who made the recording was a party to the private conversation or not, section 45 of the Act provides that the person will be guilty of an offence if they communicate or publish to any other person, a private conversation which has been recorded.

‘Communication’ and ‘publication’ are interpreted broadly, and include, playing the recording to a third party or giving a transcript of the recording to a third party.

This prohibition on communication and publication is logical, as it is the publication or communication of a recording that most people have concerns about. It seems to most people perfectly reasonable that a person should be able to record a conversation to which they were a party so long as they kept the recording private and for their own personal use only.

The Exceptions to Communication or Publication

Nothing being simple at law, there also exist a number of exceptions to the prohibition on the communication or publication of private conversations, some of which are very important and eminently reasonable. The exceptions, set out in section 45 of the Act, are as follows:

  • For reasons which are self-evident, where the communication or publication is made with the express or implied consent of all other parties to the conversation;
  • For reasons which are yet more self-evident, where the communication or publication is made by a customs or security official of the Commonwealth;
  • For reasons of public policy and protection of whistle-blowers, where the communication or publication is not more than is reasonably necessary in the public interest, in the performance of a duty, or for the protection of the lawful interests of that person;
  • Is made to a person who has, or is believed, on reasonable grounds, by the person making the communication or publication to have, such an interest in the private conversation as to make the communication or publication reasonable under the circumstances in which it is made; or
  • Is made in the course of legal proceedings (which may be criminal or civil proceedings).

Accordingly, should a private conversation be recorded by a non-party to the conversation who subsequently communicates or publishes its contents to a person other than in circumstances covered by one of the five exceptions above, that person will commit an offence.

Recording Phone Calls

One further variable to the above position is in circumstances where a private phone conversation has been recorded by means of an external listening device. That is a bugging device which is attached to the telephone or telephone line, rather than simply recording the conversation by means of the record feature on a mobile phone.

The Telecommunications (Interception) Act 1979 (Cth) prohibits the recording of any private telephone conversation by means of an external listening device. Such that, regardless of the above factors, the person who has caused the recording to be made by means of the exteral device will have committed an offence.

Recording of Conversations in the Workplace

The first point to note in relation to the recording of conversations in the workplace is that an employer may lawfully and reasonably direct an employee not to secretly record conversations within the workplace. Should an employee fail to comply with such a lawful and reasonable direction, they employer will be able to undertake performance management which, depending on the context, may include the issuing of a written warning or the termination of the employee.

For instance, in Burger King v Hungry Jacks it was held that the recording of a manager or supervisor by an employee may constitute a breach of the duty to serve the employer honestly and in good faith. Which is commonly found in employment contracts, therefore justifying summary dismissal in that case.

Indeed, the Fair Work Commission very often holds in its decisions that the non-consensual recording of private conversations in the workplace (and in particular, between an employer and employee) constitutes misconduct justifying termination of the employment.

Furthermore, a non-consensual recording of a workplace incident may be held to be inadmissible as evidence in Fair Work Commission proceedings. Although, in some circumstances, such recordings will be admissible on the basis that the recording was reasonably necessary for the protection of the lawful interests of that person (being the third of the exceptions to the prohibition on communication and publication of recordings referred to above).

Similarly, there are numerous circumstances in which the recording of a conversation by an employee could constitute a breach of the confidentiality provisions which are found in most employment contracts.

Furthermore, regardless of the legality of the conversation, should the recording arise in the context of proceedings with the Fair Work Commission, the Commission may view the recording of the conversation in an unfavourable light. For example, in the case of Wayne Schwenke v Silcar Pty Ltd t/as Silcar Energy Solutions [2013] FWC 4513. By way of illustration of the variables involved, in that matter, the Member provided that:

‘I’m satisfied that the secret recording of Mr Schwenke’s performance discussion was contrary to his duty of good faith or fidelity to the employer, and undermined the mutual trust and confidence required in the employment relationship. There may be some circumstances, such as one-on-one actions in relation to discrimination, harassment and bullying that secretly recording a conversation is permissible – but the gravity and cause would have to be significant to override the general requirement of dealing honestly and openly with the employer and work colleagues. In such circumstances, the commission would have to be acutely conscious to provocation or entrapment.’

Clearly, while the covert recording a conversation without the consent of the parties involved is prima facie a questionable thing to do, there are numerous exceptions and variables to the general postion — particularly where the recording occurs in a workplace setting.

In the event that a conversation you have been involved in has been recorded without your consent, or if you are considering recording a meeting or interaction at work, please contact our office to discuss the potential implications with one of our solicitors.

 

Need to talk to a divorce lawyer?

Please contact us to find out more about how our award-winning and respected divorce lawyers can make a positive difference in your life.

  • This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged.

Your enquiry is confidential

[gravityforms id=16]
<div class='gf_browser_unknown gform_wrapper gravity-theme dfx-session-form_wrapper' id='gform_wrapper_16' > <div class='gform_heading'> <h2 class="gform_title">Free 10 Min Session</h2> <span class='gform_description'></span> </div><form method='post' enctype='multipart/form-data' id='gform_16' class='dfx-session-form' action='/is-it-legal-to-record-a-conversation-the-dos-donts/' > <div class='gform_body gform-body'><div id='gform_fields_16' class='gform_fields top_label form_sublabel_below description_below'><fieldset id="field_16_1" class="gfield gfield_contains_required field_sublabel_hidden_label field_description_below hidden_label gfield_visibility_visible" ><legend class='gfield_label gfield_label_before_complex' >Name<span class="gfield_required"><span class="gfield_required gfield_required_text">(Required)</span></span></legend><div class='ginput_complex ginput_container no_prefix has_first_name no_middle_name has_last_name no_suffix gf_name_has_2 ginput_container_name' id='input_16_1'> <span id='input_16_1_3_container' class='name_first' > <input type='text' name='input_1.3' id='input_16_1_3' value='' aria-label='First name' aria-required='true' placeholder='First Name' /> <label for='input_16_1_3' class='hidden_sub_label screen-reader-text'>First</label> </span> <span id='input_16_1_6_container' class='name_last' > <input type='text' name='input_1.6' id='input_16_1_6' value='' aria-label='Last name' aria-required='true' placeholder='Last Name' /> <label for='input_16_1_6' class='hidden_sub_label screen-reader-text'>Last</label> </span> </div></fieldset><div id="field_16_2" class="gfield gfield--width-half gfield_contains_required field_sublabel_below field_description_below hidden_label gfield_visibility_visible" ><label class='gfield_label' for='input_16_2' >Phone<span class="gfield_required"><span class="gfield_required gfield_required_text">(Required)</span></span></label><div class='ginput_container ginput_container_phone'><input name='input_2' id='input_16_2' type='text' value='' class='large' placeholder='Phone' aria-required="true" aria-invalid="false" /></div></div><div id="field_16_3" class="gfield gfield--width-half field_sublabel_below field_description_below hidden_label gfield_visibility_visible" ><label class='gfield_label' for='input_16_3' >Area of Law</label><div class='ginput_container ginput_container_select'><select name='input_3' id='input_16_3' class='large gfield_select' aria-invalid="false" ><option value='' selected='selected' class='gf_placeholder'>Please Select</option><option value='Divorce' >Divorce</option><option value='Custody' >Custody</option><option value='Wills' >Wills</option><option value='Family Law' >Family Law</option><option value='Business Law' >Business Law</option><option value='Employment Law' >Employment Law</option><option value='Real Estate Law' >Real Estate Law</option><option value='Other' >Other</option></select></div></div><div id="field_16_4" class="gfield gform_validation_container field_sublabel_below field_description_below gfield_visibility_visible" ><label class='gfield_label' for='input_16_4' >Phone</label><div class='ginput_container'><input name='input_4' id='input_16_4' type='text' value='' /></div><div class='gfield_description' id='gfield_description_16_4'>This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged.</div></div></div></div> <div class='gform_footer top_label'> <input type='submit' id='gform_submit_button_16' class='gform_button button' value='Submit' onclick='if(window["gf_submitting_16"]){return false;} window["gf_submitting_16"]=true; ' onkeypress='if( event.keyCode == 13 ){ if(window["gf_submitting_16"]){return false;} window["gf_submitting_16"]=true; jQuery("#gform_16").trigger("submit",[true]); }' /> <input type='hidden' class='gform_hidden' name='is_submit_16' value='1' /> <input type='hidden' class='gform_hidden' name='gform_submit' value='16' /> <input type='hidden' class='gform_hidden' name='gform_unique_id' value='' /> <input type='hidden' class='gform_hidden' name='state_16' value='WyJbXSIsIjQzZWI4Mzk1M2NjYTU1NzE0MDA0MTJjODQyZjcwZjE5Il0=' /> <input type='hidden' class='gform_hidden' name='gform_target_page_number_16' id='gform_target_page_number_16' value='0' /> <input type='hidden' class='gform_hidden' name='gform_source_page_number_16' id='gform_source_page_number_16' value='1' /> <input type='hidden' name='gform_field_values' value='' /> </div> </form> </div>